Monday, June 30, 2008

Pedobaptist degenercy cited

DR. MOHLER COMMENTS ON
PEDOBAPTIST APOSTASY
IN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

Dr. R. Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, opens his blog today with this comment:

Meeting in San Jose, California, the Presbyterian Church USA, the liberal branch of American Presbyterianism, moved to approve homosexual clergy on June 27, 2008 -- a date that may well mark a final blow against biblical orthodoxy in that denomination.

Dr. Mohler goes on to explain what the Pedobaptists are doing in moving in this degenerate direction. Is not apostasy always the ultimate result of the practice of Pedobaptism?

We have contended on this blog that the Pedobaptists maintain their church membership primarily by infant baptism, adding the infants to the church as bonafide "born again" members. This is based on their supposed "covenant" teaching, that infants born to Christian parents are allegedly "covenant children" who inherit the promise of regeneration, supposedly received in early infancy, and signified and sealed by infant baptism.

Those who are acquainted with Pedobaptist history know that apostasy has been the inevitable result of the practice of infant baptism.

C. H. Spurgeon:

"I do not know an error which causes the damnation of more souls than that at the present time. . . . Sacramental efficacy and baptismal regeneration, ALL SPRING FROM THE FIRST ERROR OF INFANT BAPTISM" (New Park Street Pulpit, Volume 6, page 168).

Dr. Mohler's words are well-taken, but his dalliance with Pedobaptists is bothersome. His role at SBTS in the promotion of Hybrid Calvinism and his frequent unionism with Pedos in various contexts will only serve to give aid and comfort the Pedos and the ultimate apostasy which Pedobaptism engenders.

10 Comments:

At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You hit the nail on the head infant baptism leads to homosexual behavior.

Of course when you look at the statistics of baptistic denominations in the south, someone could use the same reasoning to say, "creedobaptism leads to divorce, since so many baptists get divorced these days."

Furthermore, what apostasy in the sbc lead to 60%+ of our believers not even showing up to church.

 
At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:12:00 PM, Blogger Charles said...

Brother Bob, Hello!

If you look at Dr. Mohler's conference schedule, he shows up at hyper /hybrid /neo /extreme /Reformed /Pedo-leading Calvinist conferences all the time. You rarely see him at an SBC conference, other than the annual convention.

I find it very strange. Mohler is the head of an SBC seminary, a school founded to train SBC pastors. He's never been a full time pastor and therefore is unqualified to properly train pastors. Instead all he seems to do is blog about moral and cultural trends and hang with his Reformed friends.

Charles

 
At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:41:00 PM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

MOHLER'S BLOGS

Charles said...


He's never been a full time pastor and therefore is unqualified to properly train pastors. Instead all he seems to do is blog about moral and cultural trends and hang with his Reformed friends.

That is a good summary of Mohler's blogging. He seems more interested in commenting about "news" or "relgious news" than what one might expect of a seminary president. Of course, that tends to enhance his being invited to participate on TV news programs like "Larry King Live."

 
At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:49:00 PM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

PEDOBAPTISM LEADS TO...

Anonymous said...


You hit the nail on the head infant baptism leads to homosexual behavior.

What I said was that infant baptism leads to apostasy. It puts the unregenerate into the church, and if they never get saved thereafter, apostasy seems to be the inevitable result in due course of time. That is the record of history, at least. And if you will look at the religious groups in which homosexuality has made and is making significant inroads, it is in the pedobaptist denominations more so than any others.

 
At Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:01:00 AM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

CHURCH ATTENDANCE

Anonymous said...


Furthermore, what apostasy in the sbc lead to 60%+ of our believers not even showing up to church.

Compared to the baptisms by Pedobaptist denominations, the SBC percentage does not look so poor. In Great Britain, for instance, where the majority of the population was baptized in infancy, the percentage that attend church has been reported as being exceedingly low.

 
At Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:05:00 AM, Blogger Timothy said...

>"Those who are acquainted with Pedobaptist history know that apostasy has been the inevitable result of the practice of infant baptism."

Correlation does not imply causation.

One could just as easily state:

Those who are acquainted with Credobaptist history know that apostasy has been the inevitable result of the practice of beiever baptism.

As evidence one finds numerous apostate groups that are credobaptist: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Oneness Pentacostal, etc.

Correlation does not imply causation.

God bless...

+Timothy

 
At Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:17:00 AM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

CAUSATION?

Timothy said:


As evidence one finds numerous apostate groups that are credobaptist: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Oneness Pentacostal, etc.

Correlation does not imply causation.


All of the groups you mention are groups which admit the unregenerate to baptism, just as the Pedobaptists do in the case of infants. None of them require a profession of salvation prior to baptism.

When you fill the church with unregenerates, apostasy is the inevitable outcome. That may indeed even happen to a church which requires the profession of salvation before baptism, but at least they attempted to maintain the scriptural order -- a profession of salvation first, then baptism.

The groups you name and the baby baptizers do not even require a profession of salvation prior to baptism.

 
At Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:16:00 PM, Blogger Paul Manata said...

"What I said was that infant baptism leads to apostasy. It puts the unregenerate into the church,"

Yes, and credobaptism puts the regenerate into the church!

Profession = regeneration???

 
At Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:43:00 PM, Blogger Jugulum said...

"We have contended on this blog that the Pedobaptists maintain their church membership primarily by infant baptism, adding the infants to the church as bonafide "born again" members. This is based on their supposed "covenant" teaching, that infants born to Christian parents are allegedly "covenant children" who inherit the promise of regeneration, supposedly received in early infancy, and signified and sealed by infant baptism."

So... Are you aware that Presbyterians do not believe in baptismal regeneration?

 
At Monday, March 26, 2012 2:21:00 AM, Blogger G. Casey said...

Actually the problem occur not on the issue of infant baptism. Credobaptist miss this point. Infant baptism has an indeed legitimate position if one views the action carefully of the parents faith in terms of God's salvation for theit child. In other words the child is to continue in the direction of the faith of the parent and worship of their God. One can see this with Abraham unto Jacob. Credobaptists miss this point often. Infant baptism does not prevent one from apostasing from the faith of the family. If the child remains under the headship of the parent until adulthood he is thus rendered as saved. He does not have to wait until his own belief system is established for baptism. This is why there a basis for infant baptism.

 

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