Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Ascol's church planting claim


On the "Tom and Tim" show via podcast, Tom Ascol tells his new assistant, Timmy Brister, that "many" of the "Founders Friendly" churches have been involved in "church planting," but that the Flounders "keep no statistics on this" and therefore do not give reports about it.

He claims that "dozens and dozens" of churches have been planted in the USA and around the world by those affiliated with the Flounders. No names are given of either the "planters" or the "churches" which have done the planting.

The question is, where are these "dozens and dozens" of churches? Is Ascol "padding" the record? How can he make such a claim unless he has a "record" of such churches?

While we know there have been some "plants" made by people who have split from other churches, or been proselyted from other churches, we know of no church that the Flounders have planted as a result of
evangelistic, soul winning efforts.

I would challenge Ascol and the Flounders to name a single church which has been planted other than those planted by proselytes and members who have split from other churches.

It is rather ironic that Ascol makes this unsubstantiated claim so soon after his brouhaha about the Southern Baptist Convention's statistics.


At Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:53:00 PM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...


I wonder if you,
Charles, have noticed an increase in "chatter" about evangelism and "church planting" among the Hybrid Calvinists since we started commenting on the lack of those things in the "Reformed" and the Flounders camps?

Do you think, perhaps, some or our comments have been "taken to heart" by the Flounders?

At Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:55:00 PM, Blogger Rick said...

I've got a challenge of my own for tough-guy Ascol.

Why not lead your so-called "militaristic" brethren (starting with the chickhawks at Triablogue and branching out to some of the other uber-cal bloggers) to sign up and serve their country in uniform?

And, how about keeping a record of the Calvinists in this country who have served in uniform?

Most of the 4 and 5 point guys I know ran the other way.



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