Saturday, April 11, 2009

What kind of "church plant"?


Brother Ian Elsasser of our other blog, the Reformed Flyswatter, has been keeping tabs on the "Founders" blogs in regard to their proposed "church plant." Ian observes:

Timmy Brister [of the "Founders Ministries" headed by Tom Ascol] has recommended two Presbyterian resources over the last two days. Yesterday he recommended a podcast interview with the pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and today he revealed that the Acts Bible Study he has been conducting with Grace Church plant core group is developed by Tim Keller and Redeemer Presbyterian Church. This is not unusual since he tends to recommend resources that are non-Baptistic (remember the recommended books [by Pedobaptists] on evangelism he gave?). It says much about his and Grace Baptist Church's (aka Founders) preferences. -- Ian Elsasser.

Bob's Comment:

For the past three years, this blog has noted that the consistent pattern of the "Flounders" is "Bapbyterian" in character, a persona imbibed from the founder of the Flounders, Ernest Reisinger. Reisinger combined his obsession with Presbyterianism with the Baptist view on baptism, and this has comprised the "Reformed" ecclesiology-soteriology of the Flounders' movement ever since.

Brister is helping to perpetuate this new-fangled Hybrid among those who are the successors of Reisinger, headed by Pastor Tom Ascol of Grace Baptist Church of Cape Coral, Florida and his associates in the Flounders' parasitical organization. The obvious kind of "church plant" which Brister and Ascol are attempting to develope is of the "Bapbyterian" hybrid variety which tends to put their version of "Calvinism" first and everything else -- including evangelism -- secondary.

Predictably, if and when this "church plant" comes to fruition, it will consequently be just another Hybrid Calvinist entity, dead at the root in regard to soul-winning and evangelism.

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At Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:49:00 AM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...


Brother Bruce Oyen comments via email:

Bob, if those men are gong down that path, not only will the churches be "Bapbyterian," but also "Baby-terian."



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