Monday, March 10, 2008

Ascol hires associate pastor


Tom Ascol keeps coming up with new projects to promote his version of "Calvinism" in his unending effort to "reform" Southern Baptists and make them Quasi-Presbyterians or what we prefer to call Hybrid Calvinists.

He wasted $20,000 on a project last year to mail a Hybrid Calvinist DVD, which primarily featured several Presbyterian pedobaptist Hybrid Calvinists, to the 3000 pastors in the Florida Baptist Convention, in the effort to get these pastors to believe that the "elect" get sovereignly "born again before and without faith."

Several months ago, Tom Ascol announced another project -- that Tom Nettles of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary was being invited to Cape Coral in view of a call as Associate Pastor. This also resulted in wasting church money, for after Nettles and wife went down and looked over the landscape at Grace Baptist, the grass looked greener in Louisville, and another Ascol project was necessarily abandoned.

Then, a few months ago, the "Bridge to Nowhere" Conference was held in North Carolina, and that seems to have also turned out to be wasted time and money for Ascol's Hybrid Calvinism cause. I don't think the Hybrids built much of a bridge over the River Quasi to Dr. Danny Akin, Dr. Kenneth Keathley, and others of their category of theology.

Now he has another project in the works: He has hired Timmy Brister of the Hybrid Calvinist blogosphere to become Associate Pastor at Grace Baptist. Brister will move to Florida upon his graduation from Southern Seminary this Spring.

In hiring Brister, Tom gets a man "after his own heart," as Brister has blogged against such matters as invitations, altar calls, "decisional regeneration," Billy Graham, Charles Finney, non-Calvinist Southern Baptist churches, and other subjects near and dear to Tom Ascol.

I could hardly imagine any two being more compatible "peas in a pod" than Tim and Tom. Both are great promoters of the pedobaptist Iain Murray Hybrid Calvinist paradigm of theology on which the Founders was founded by founder Ernest C. Reisinger.

Brother Charles -- what do you think?


At Monday, March 10, 2008 5:26:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slander is a sin.
Slander is a sin.
Slander is a sin.
Slander is a sin.

Pope Bob I don't think the things that Grace decides to do as a church is any of your business. I don't think that you dictate how Mr. Ascol chooses to lead is any of your business.

You really need to step back and consider what you say and the way you say it.

I hate responding to your site because it is so full of ungodliness but I just get so tired of your ways.
You truly need to stop your ugliness.

At Monday, March 10, 2008 7:34:00 PM, Blogger Charles said...

Brother Bob, Hello!

I may be mistaken but I thought Brister had his heart set on missions! What happened? Did he apply to the IMB only to be rejected after they looked at his blog for all of two seconds -- a blog that trashes almost all things SBC – a blog which his own seminary hinted was "juvenile"? Did the IMB realize after reading Timmy's blog that he spends so much time blogging that missions is a far second in time and energy? Or did Timmy decide that "missions" to the hyper/ hybrid/ neo/ uber/ extreme Calvinist really means converting Southern Baptists to the hybrid camp and he should help Ascol with the task?

Tom Nettles turned Ascol down so it looks like Timmy is the runner-up.

Hopefully Tom can pay Timmy as much as UPS has been paying him. I hear UPS has great benefits.


At Monday, March 10, 2008 7:53:00 PM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

None of Bob's business?

Anonymous said...
Pope Bob I don't think the things that Grace decides to do as a church is any of your business. I don't think that you dictate how Mr. Ascol chooses to lead is any of your business.

Tom & Grace agreed with you, anonymous, for neither of them said a word to me about what they did. Had they asked me, I would have deferred them to my friend, Charles, for his wise counsel. He apparently recalls that Tim "had his heart set on missions" [see the comment by Charles].

If our blog is ugly to you, perhaps you "need to step back and consider" why you bother read it and respond with evident attempts at being facetious.

At Monday, March 10, 2008 8:07:00 PM, Blogger Bob L. Ross said...

What happened?

Charles said...

I may be mistaken but I thought Brister had his heart set on missions! What happened?

As you recall, Charles, Tim has been writing a number of rather surly blogs about the faults of the SBC while at the same time he enjoyed many benefits provided by the SBC.

It appears that the next best thing Tim could do besides leaving the SBC is to become a full-fledged "Flounder." However, I don't know if Tom's benefits will be as enjoyable as what the SBC provided to Tim.

At Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:53:00 AM, Blogger Rick said...

Humorous post.

The more I read from sites like Triablogue and others the more I recognize that their entire raison d'etre is to slam other movements. In light of that, I don't think it is ungracious to point out what we view as weaknesses in calvinist doctrine.

The "Bridge to Nowhere" comment was a hoot. There is no way the two camps are ever going to be compatible. 5-pointers, at the most, feel lukewarm toward anybody but themselves. If you read their blogs they are always the same: they approach other Christians as "well they may have some good points BUT...they need to be shown the ERROR OF THEIR WAYS..."

I honestly don't know how they can stand to live in their own skin--they are so unhappy because others don't believe what they believe.

I can only think that Ascol has some benevolent donators if he can afford to spend it on a dvd that someone would use in their garden to scare away birds.

Ascol isn't too bright if he wants to change the world to 5-pointers while living in Florida--you know what I mean? He could have picked a state with younger people.

At Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IMB would only be better to have someone who understands and can preach the Gospel. Something that from my understanding is lacking within the IMB and not with all but many on the field. They are leaving to do it through others who do it better. By the way there are many who are on the field that are solid Calvinist, who followed William Carey etc....

Juvenile and spending to much time on the internet - from the mouth of the horse from the most juvenile.

Well it just happen to pop up that I bothered to look. Mostly I don't look due to the lack of truth and substance. Its hard to read a blog that is only two men with nothing to do but this.....have you tried AT&T !!!!!


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