Sunday, March 19, 2006

The odd logic of James White

Wonder of Wonders! "Dr." James White has released a statement on what he believes about regeneration. He says,
If you encounter someone confused by others about my views, correct them. If you encounter one who claims to know my heart better than I do and who refuses to accept this confession of faith, dismiss him as the addled ranter he is. There is no reasoning with those who will not listen and who profess personal infallibility on matters about which they are completely ignorant or, worse, dishonest.

The problem with White is that he has no understanding of the law of noncontradiction which states, "one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time." Logic has never been a close companion of James White when it comes to regeneration.

In his statement, James grabs onto Spurgeon and a traditional Calvinist confession. However, James' published writings conflict with his new statement. In The Potter's Freedom (page 101), James says, "The Reformed assertion is that man cannot understand and embrace the gospel nor respond in faith and repentance toward Christ without God first freeing him from sin and giving him spiritual life (regeneration)."

There you have it. According to James White, regeneration must first occur before faith and repentance. Life (regeneration) occurs before faith which is exactly what the Catholic Church believes.

As Bob Ross has pointed out in various articles and on this blog, the view that regeneration occurs before faith is neither a biblical nor a Baptist position. James new statement on regeneration is at odds with his published remarks. Will James recant what he wrote in The Potter's Freedom? Or will he insist that the law of noncontradiction applies to everyone but him?

Stay tuned.

Charles

5 Comments:

At Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess the unaccredited correspondence school where James got his doctorate never made him take Logic 101.

 
At Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:51:00 PM, Anonymous Bob L. Ross said...

PAUL'S "HORSE"?

Charles said,
"Logic has never been a close companion of James White when it comes to regeneration."

Not only logic, Charles, but James "reads into Scripture" things that are NOT there.

He talks a lot about his "exegesis" (his favorite word) but he practices a lot of "eisegesis."

For example, did you know that Paul had a HORSE?

James, the self-proclaimed "ex-e-geeter," found a hoss and put Paul on it in his debatebook with Dave Hunt (page 205), and claimed that God "knocked him off."

Do suppose he found that hoss in the same verse he found people "born again before faith"?

And some think Dave Hunt is an efficient debater? Howcum he let James get away with that?

I think James may have been looking at some Roman Catholic art, for I found that same hoss on an RC website.

That is what you call "eisegesis" -- putting hosses -- and people "born again before faith" -- in Scripture that 'aint' there.-- Bob Ross

 
At Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:26:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous seems to be confused with his own lack of education and you still speak falsely---Shame, Shame!!!!

 
At Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:33:00 PM, Blogger Charles said...

Bob, Hello!

Do suppose he found that hoss in the same verse he found people "born again before faith"?

His eisegesis goes way beyond the Bible. He finds the same "regeneration before faith" stuff in the writings of Spurgeon!

He's so funny!

Charles

 
At Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny you guys posted his response to brother Bob. However, I think you guys are not the only ones of the same opinion. I guess he really hacked this guy. I came across this site today while looking for the caner white debate:
http://jamesdoesnotspeakforus.blogspot.com/

I wonder how many more of these sites are out there?

 

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